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03/22/2011

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Troy

oh man this is ridiculous. i for one would rather spend money on a great bike than the "appropriate" fashion accesories which should go along with it. I better look out :S

Ron Schirm

It is deja vu all over again. remember this?
In 1959, several white cops saw trumpeter Miles Davis get out of his yellow Ferrari (in front of the famous Birdland night club in NYC) and beat him because they thought he stole the car. Talk about racial profiling.

Ryan

Being "chic-er" won't make a lick of difference.

Two Sundays ago I was out for a nice Sunday morning ride with my Dad when a cop pulled me over.
He wanted to know what I had in my front basket (my camera bag). He then thought it was odd for someone to be riding a bike with a camera.

After he changed his tone to a more confrontational one, I did likewise as I was more than helpful and polite to him.

That's when he looked at anything to ticket me on, so he asked if I had a bell. When I said yes he demanded me to prove it.
He then took my 'information' to check me out, because obviously people on bikes must have a criminal past.

I had to email the local police force later in the day just to find out what I did wrong as the cop didn't tell me once...Apparently being out on a Sunday morning for a ride is considered "suspicious behaviour".

Oh, what was I wearing?
Very nice dark blue jeans. A nice simple looking blue fleece sweater jacket.
Forget about being chic, you better be decked out in spandex.

After this incident happened, I have zero trust/faith/confidence with cops now.

Rick Lugg

@Ryan - your police story reminded me of an incident reported years ago in the UK. A cyclist was being berated by a policeman who was trying to find some basis on which to charge him. Having noticed that there was no bell obvious on the bicycle, he pedantically used the correct definition. "Sir, do you have the required audible warning of approach?" "Yes", came the reply "LOOK OUT".

Jonny

Hey Ryan, I don't believe your story for a second. Good people out for "nice Sunday morning rides" don't get stopped and investigated by the police. I bike around KW often in normal everyday clothing and NEVER once have I been detained by a police officer. Tell us what really happened!

Ryan

@Jonny, here's what happened.

I was out Sunday morning with my Dad for a ride. We were riding at a casual pace (20km/h) around our neighbourhood and the little seaport village in St. Catharines (Port Dalhousie) which is only a two minute bike ride from our house.

I stopped on a road (bike lane) in Port Dalhousie snapping some pictures when two cop cars passed me. They didn't do or say anything.

After 10-15 minutes we left Port Dalhousie to head back to our neighbourhood area.
A cop passed us again, then he drove into a school parking lot to sit around.

We were then going to ride to another area, however the short-cut was blocked by a snow mound, so we decided to take a the longer way.
As we were leaving to head the long way, the cop raced over to me (my Dad was heading towards the traffic lights in another direction).

That's when he asked what I had in my bag sitting in my front basket.
When I told him a camera, he had a smug and sarcastic tone, asking why I would have that.
I told him so I could take pictures.
He then said "that's odd".
In which I asked if there was anything wrong with taking pictures?
He then told me not to get smart with him.

Then my Dad finally made his way back. He thought he was just saying hello.
When he found out he wanted to know what I was doing, he asked him what I did wrong.

After asking this a dozen or so times, he realized we didn't do anything wrong, so to try and ticket me, he asked (for some reason only me) if I had a bell.
When I said yes, he wanted me to prove it.

Still wanting to know what we did, we told him we're going to leave if he doesn't tell us what we did wrong.

That's when the cop decided to pull into the parking lot to get our names/address.
We spent another 5-10 minutes there as nothing came up on the computer.
I then decided to take my camera out to take pictures of him and then started to record a video when he said he would seize the camera if I didn't turn it off and put it away.

If we did something wrong why did we not receive a ticket or at the very least a warning, or even told why we were stopped?

Having come from KW, I know those cops are far superior to Niagara's (or at least use to be). Niagara cops have a long history of corruption and abuse of power, which has improved somewhat, but is still one of Ontario's worst police forces.

Not sure why it's so hard to believe that someone who didn't do anything wrong can get harassed by cops for no reason.

Oh, this wasn't the first time I was stopped by the NRP. A few years ago I was stopped by two cops who asked what I had in my side bag and where I came from.
I told them from the store just a block away and it had groceries in it. They said okay and took off.

It's not as if I have a criminal record. The only thing that could possibly show up on their computers for me is that I was a witness for two accidents.
Hell, it's not as if I go through red lights or stop signs.

Perhaps it would take a similar incident to happen to you for you to truly believe it.

Michael D

I'm having a difficult time making any sense of Jonny's ridiculous assertion that anyone getting stopped by the police must be a bad person.

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