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09/29/2011

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Jeff S.

Well that beats my story of a helmet-less university student, slowly struggling up a hill in high gear, on the wrong side of the road in a bike lane.

Alan M

Maybe the two are partners ?

Chris

Or the other university student who, moving at a high speed at dusk while carrying his gym equipment, on the wrong side of the road on Columbia by the laurel trail, almost got flattened by me on my (well lit) bicycle.

Jon

Bicyclists need to be licensed and insured if they want to drive on a road. To begin with, they can't keep up with traffic, they don't use or obey signals/lights/signs, the bikes are rarely equipped to be certified for road use (ie signal lights, headlight, tailight, brakelight), and they actually believe they have any rights. They are a guest on the road, and maybe when enough of them get crushed they will finally wake up and begin to comply with the Highway Traffic Act. You want rights? Obey the law.

dobby411

Or a teenager, at dusk, with no lights, with no helmet, on the sidewalk, at a high rate of speed (down hill), crossing the intersection as I am about to turn left in front of him. Fortunately, I noticed him and waited. Though I must admit, I was tempted....

Rob (Mk.2)

@Jon Bicycles are decidedly NOT guests on the road. I suggest a re-reading of the Highway Traffic Act. That being said, I share your frustration with scofflaw cyclists who endanger themselves and others. Cyclists do have obligations that come along with the right to be on the road and I am personally in favour of greater enforcement of traffic laws as they pertain to cyclists. I have nearly run down other cyclists at night despite the fact that my bike was lit up like a Christmas tree and I was following the law (the latest incident was two nights ago).

Chris

Jon, dear troll, have you even read that highway traffic act that you tout so?

Bicycles are not a guest on the road and are, in fact, a vehicle. This grants them the same rights and responsibilities as any other road user. This would be the reason why cyclists think that they have rights. It is because they do.

As far as obeying the law is concerned, ever sit and watch people driving cars? If not, I suggest you do. Why, just the other day, I witnessed in a five minute period in Uptown Waterloo all at one corner the following things:
1. A motorist utterly fail to park without hitting the curb repeatedly who left their vehicle in the drive lane and forced traffic to squash into the outside lane to get around his/her ineptly parked vehicle.
2. People blindly squash left around that vehicle, in two cases forcing traffic into the oncoming traffic's lane.
3. A mini van pull out into traffic without looking/judging traffic speed and almost get the front of the van (and the rear too) torn off for their pleasure.
4. Several people move through the Uptown at speeds that while legal, were much too fast for conditions.
5. Several people run the stop sign.

It could have been a festival of careless driving charges should a police officer have felt so inclined.

Guess how many cyclists broke the law in the same time period? None. And I saw several of them go by.

To borrow your own words (with the punctuation fixed):
"...maybe when enough of them get crushed, they will finally wake up and begin to comply with the Highway Traffic Act. You want rights? Obey the law."

Of course, crash statistics with cars show that this is not happening. There are 1000s of crashes a year, and 1000s of charges laid each year, and licensing makes not a bit of difference to moderating the behaviour of people.

The thing is that there is a certain percentage of people (usually small) who flagrantly flout the law. Sometimes, those people drive cars and sometimes, those people ride bikes.

Incidentally, the overwhelming majority of motorist I observed while at that corner were just fine, just like the overwhelming majority of cyclists one sees in a day are just fine.

Lambasting an entire group of road users because of the actions of a few is childish.

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