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07/24/2011

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charles

Riding at off-peak times for afternoon and evening shifts sure helped me get to know my commute better last winter, it's also just so much nicer to ride after rush hour has passed. I'd even go in early and have coffee just to avoid it if I were working still...

As for the lack of women cyclists, perhaps stuff like the cycle chic craze doesn't help too much, not everyone is a fashion model and cycle chic seems to take a lot of pictures of women that look and dress like models in skimpy clothes... there doesn't seem to be nearly as many pictures of men in booty shorts and muscle shirts on bikes in their pages, so I would make the case that some of cycle chic is indeed (partially) about oogling women on bikes, and that doesn't really do much for me.

As a man I can't really know if it is a big deal or not, and the only comparable experience I can offer is the bit of self-conscious hesitation when I first squeezed my fat behind into a pair of riding shorts and set out. Most people don't care but it's still something I think we could do with ignoring a bit... but then again who would want to read a blog full of pictures of fully clothed people in their ordinary clothes on bikes. Certainly not as a titillating I'm sure.

Michael D

I disagree with charles about cycle chic, and I think this post gets at why: http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2011/07/value-of-cycle-chic.html

Mostly I do not ride (or drive) during peaks - but the difference really is night and day, at least on some roads.

clasher

How is taking pictures of pretty women on bikes not objectifying? You're free to disagree with that idea if you want, but that's my view of cycle chic.

Cap'n transit seems to be missing that key point in easy dismisal of cycle chic's criticisms... his point seems to be that it's okay to oogle pretty girls in skirts because they aren't driving. That seems like a bit of a stretch to me, but whatever.

Michael D

You claim that cycle chic is about ogling pretty girls on bikes, and I would claim that it's about demonstrating that people (of both genders) can look good on bikes, in cities all across the world. There is a difference, and it's that it's not just observation but also encouraging participation. It matters to the substantial portion of the population that cares about fashion. Those people are also more able to change the culture as a whole and get other people making the same choices. I would like more people to ride for transportation, and cycle chic is one way of getting there.

clasher

Just because it gets people on bikes doesn't make ogling women any more "right". I agree with many of the other tenets that Mikael Colville-Andersen counts as part of cycle chic... I just think that the focus of the site seems to detract from getting more women on bikes than helps it, but that's just my opinion. You may think the means justify the ends but I don't really think to do in this case... dunno that there is any thing else to say about this.

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